tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36605616.post4889190322428901081..comments2023-09-28T05:52:52.110-04:00Comments on The Ground Truth in Iraq: From the Director's Desk: Two Senators to WatchErik K. Gustafsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01870861092770458296noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36605616.post-87842456638199184562007-07-15T20:10:00.000-04:002007-07-15T20:10:00.000-04:00One of the early talking points by Baker and Hamil...One of the early talking points by Baker and Hamilton when they hit the talk show circuit when their commission's report was released, is that to have any hope of succeeding, the suggestions they made had to be implemented immediately. That was last year.<BR/><BR/>This is not a problem of "partisan bickering and absolutist demands," its a president who increasingly appears to be incapable of understanding the nature of the problem he created. He could have gotten good advice from his own father and those who advised him, but he chose not to, so it should be no surprise that he won't take it from bipartisan sources, be it the "gold standard" or not.<BR/><BR/>The only things that I can envision that the white house "can't refuse" are stopping the funding or impeaching the chief executive and his warmongering oil-hungry second-in-command. <BR/><BR/>Neither of these are likely to achieve bi-partisan support until its obvious that incumbents won't be re-elected unless we're out of the war. Your view seems to be that the ones that <B>aren't</B> running for office are the responsible ones. I think its just the opposite.PBCliberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13339716433038272465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36605616.post-60564817746524335822007-07-13T12:45:00.000-04:002007-07-13T12:45:00.000-04:00It would be really nice if we could just pull out ...It would be really nice if we could just pull out of Iraq, and everything would just magically get better or even back to the way it used to be. Unfortunately, the real consequences of those actions would be much different.<BR/><BR/>You have to realize that during the many bungled, mismanaged, and poorly planned operations in Iraq, the US has planted the seeds for many of the very horrors we feared worst since 9/11 and then the invasion of Iraq. I'm talking about Civil war, terrorism, Al-Queda gaining strength in Iraq, and, scariest of all, is the potential escalation of the conflict into countries throughout the Middle East.<BR/><BR/>Ultimately, we need a different approach to what our personel are doing over there. What that approach involves is difficult to say, but I would argue for increased humanitarian efforts, helping many of the refugees, having many more diplomatic dialauges with leadeers in Iraq and neighboring countries. We clearly can't just kill all the bad guys and take all the oil, but I don't think it is so far-fetched to believe we can influence the region to be considerably more stable (not perfect by any means)and hopefully regain international cooperation. Allthough I don't take the lives of our troops and other Americans lightly, I think this certainly would be a worthy purpose if we ushered in a plan that would yield real progress towards these aims.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36605616.post-19860945950881150692007-07-13T04:54:00.000-04:002007-07-13T04:54:00.000-04:00"But what else are we supposed to do, send our for..."But what else are we supposed to do, send our foreign service officers into extremely dangerous and inadequate conditions?" <BR/><BR/>They should not be going over there in the first place. We are not wanted there by over 69% of the Iraqi people. And 70% or more of Americans say we need to leave as well. We should be cutting our losses, not investing more money and personnel. The fact that we have to build a fortress for an embassy speaks volumes. That monstrosity of an embassy and the permanent military bases that we are building in Iraq do nothing to dispel the notion that we plan on being there for a long time. What is irresponsible is staying where we are clearly not wanted. ---mlsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36605616.post-89074835358871797922007-07-12T14:06:00.001-04:002007-07-12T14:06:00.001-04:00anonymous x2 - while the "we're only in it for the...anonymous x2 - while the "we're only in it for the oil" argument may have some merit, it's not the only reason behind the seemingly extravagant embassy. Yes, $592 million is a whole lot of money, and 104 acres is huge for a building anywhere. But consider the amount of money and personnel we have invested in Iraq. We have to have a huge embassy in order to keep our people safe over there; it has to have state-of-the-art security and be a fortress against attack. It also has to provide housing for all the people who work there.<BR/><BR/>The flip side is, such a fortress further distances U.S. forces and workers from the realities in greater Iraq, is alienating to the Iraqi people, and presents itself as a target. But what else are we supposed to do, send our foreign service officers into extremely dangerous and inadequate conditions? <BR/><BR/>I'm not saying you're wrong to be critical, but unless you can think of an alternative, it doesn't help any more than John Edwards calling so irresponsibly for immediate troop withdrawal.Emily Stivershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16196906418900661808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36605616.post-87894012884995617622007-07-12T14:06:00.000-04:002007-07-12T14:06:00.000-04:00Katherine - we agree with you 100%. As an individu...Katherine - we agree with you 100%. As an individual, I don't agree with Lugar on every issue, but he seems to be one of if not the most rational thinker in the Senate when it comes to Iraq.Emily Stivershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16196906418900661808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36605616.post-51029551765293330072007-07-12T10:55:00.000-04:002007-07-12T10:55:00.000-04:00What's up with this embassy? First time I've heard...What's up with this embassy? First time I've heard about it. This should be in the news so others know what's going on!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36605616.post-41385659224794618392007-07-11T23:08:00.000-04:002007-07-11T23:08:00.000-04:00What the congress doesn't get (or maybe they do) i...What the congress doesn't get (or maybe they do) is that the White House will never agree to any kind of withdrawal from Iraq. Bush and Cheney want the US to control Iraq's oil. That is why they intend to keep a permanent military presence there and why the US is building that $592million and counting embassy on over 104 acres of prime Baghdad real estate. Which by the way has plenty of electricity and clean water unlike the Iraqi people. This whole mess is just criminal. I would say that there have been plenty of high crimes and misdemeanors committed by certain parties in the White House when it comes to this catastrophe and others of their making. ---mlsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36605616.post-28239757465331911472007-07-11T16:12:00.000-04:002007-07-11T16:12:00.000-04:00While I may differ in some of my views from Sen. R...While I may differ in some of my views from Sen. Richard Lugar, I know him to be a man of integrity and honesty who cares about our country.<BR/><BR/>Lugar has not said anything different about the war in Iraq except one word -- "contingency" -- that no one in the administration has used. He said he hopes the surge works. Lugar has said, in so many words, in light of past actions and circumstances, we need to have an alternative if it doesn't. This is a novel idea for this administration and this Congress. While it may have been wrong to invade Iraq, we cannot go backward; however, if we continue to mess up and never consider a contingency plan, it is hopeless.<BR/><BR/>President Bush keeps changing what our goals are and why we went to Iraq, as he is unwilling to admit to his flawed plans and actions. If Lugar had been in charge, we would have had a more honest and logical plan of action, not the flip-flop from one idea or cause or plan to another.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com